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Mayor, Council Should Promote Transparency

Even when provisions of open meetings laws are open to some interpretation, officials are to lean toward more openness rather than less openness or secrecy.

Georgia, through its open-meetings laws, provides the legal framework for how various government agencies, cities included, must behave in providing citizens with information as to what is being discussed and how decisions are made that affect your tax dollars and the operations of the city.

This can be reviewed at O.C.G.A. 50-14-1, or you can obtain a booklet from the Georgia Attorney General’s Office or through www.gfaf.org. The booklet was given to the mayor and each council member in February.

These laws are centered on “meetings.” The definition of a “meeting” for the purposes of Georgia law depends on two things only: the number of members of the organization who are present, and the topics discussed by those people.

All gatherings where a quorum (three council members in the case of Powder Springs) is present and where any city-related discussion takes place are considered a “meeting” under the Open Meetings Act and are subject to the provision of open-meeting laws. 

There is no mention of having a written agenda to be considered a meeting.

There is no mention of whether the meeting is mandatory for members to attend.

There is no mention of whether the gathering is in a formal or informal setting or even where it must be held.

There is also no mention that a vote must be taken to constitute a meeting or to take minutes of these meetings. Again, in Powder Springs, this means that whenever three council members are at the same place and city-related topics are discussed, provisions of the Open Meetings Act must be followed.

1. As any participant in the “” knows, city topics are discussed with anyone present who wishes to ask a question about the city or voice concerns about a city matter.

This constitutes a meeting under the Open Meetings Act whenever three council members are in attendance, and certain things must happen, not the least of which is the taking of minutes to enable anyone to know what information is being given out and what concerns the citizens express. There must be a historical record that can be reviewed by citizens not present at the meeting. 

Why wouldn’t the mayor and want all citizens to know what’s going on and to know information and facts about the city?

Nobody wants the “Breakfast with the Mayor and Council” to be stopped, but we should all be able to know what topics are discussed, what concerns are voiced and what information is given out by our elected representatives.

2. Minutes are to be taken at the council’s work sessions, where information is gathered, discussed and used to vote on matters in the formal council meetings after each work session. The actual vote in the council meeting provides very little information as to the background and basis of a particular action taken by the mayor and council; therefore, it is important for the citizens to have a record of the discussions and exchange of ideas.

The city has chosen to interpret the Open Meetings Act in work sessions in its own way that provides only for a record of the votes taken, typically the vote to break for their meal and the vote to adjourn the meeting—the least information for the public.

They don’t record the regular business of the work session so citizens can know the basis of decisions affecting their tax dollars. And they don’t even record all the votes taken; a review of the video of the work sessions finds the mayor often taking an “informal poll” of the council members regarding issues that have been discussed (for an example, see the work session meeting on www.powderspringscitycouncilwatch.blogspot.com for the Aug. 10 meeting, Part 3 at the 25:40 time). 

This polling of the council members is, in essence, a request to know whether they support an issue to determine what the vote is likely to be in the formal council meeting. No record is being made of this, and it should be.

3. All meetings are to be announced ahead of time, and an agenda of items to be discussed must be posted at the meeting place ahead of time. The mayor and council have decided, when posted at all, to do so only 24 hours in advance. With work sessions beginning at 5 p.m. on Wednesday, posting an agenda inside just before closing on Tuesday (24 hours in advance) does not give working people an opportunity to see the agenda and know what is to be discussed.

Little or no public input is made because no one knows what will be talked about. Why not post the agenda for the council meetings and work sessions at least three days in advance of the meeting? This would make the topics to be discussed available to more citizens to know what will be the order of business. Citizens can then decide whether to come down to see what their council is doing.

The council spent more than $20,000 for the current city website and spends $4,000 yearly for upkeep and support. The city should use the technology we’re paying for to post the agenda and full minutes of all meetings to provide citizens with information that is vital to knowing how decisions are made. We’re already paying for it.

4. I have heard complaints that there is not enough room for people to attend the work sessions in the council’s second-floor meeting room in City Hall. Why not use the same room in the as the regular council meetings?

More people could comfortably attend meetings, where topics of interest to them are being talked about by the council. There’s plenty of work space for the council’s iPads, and there is first-class video and audio equipment for presentations to be made and seen by all.

Right now, only the mayor and council members can see the supporting documents on their iPads while a presentation is being made by staff members or persons before the council. The citizens have already paid for this technology as well, so why not let the public see these materials?

Georgia open-meetings laws are to be liberally interpreted such that all governments, cities included, are open to public scrutiny and review. Even when provisions of the law are open to some interpretation, officials are to lean toward more openness rather than less openness or secrecy.

Citizens deserve to know what discussions and actions are being taken by their elected representatives concerning the taxes that they pay. Open-meetings laws demand that the city make information available to all. Transparency in government is not a suggestion; it’s a requirement of the law.

When will Powder Springs come into full compliance?

—Ra Barr, Powder Springs

Anastasia Beaverhausen October 13, 2011 at 10:22 pm
AMEN!!! Since Pat Vaughn has been Mayor, secrecy and deception seems to be normal practice. That's why there are never any of the city councilmembers in the media. She is afraid of what they might say. When you do get an opportunity to talk to a councilmember in private they don't seem to have a clue about anything. Apparently she has them well trained!
Hopefully a lot will come to light at the debate. I would like more information on the police report that the Mayor filed against Councilman Bevirt claiming that he threatened her life. Powder Springs city government is absolutely out of control! I can't imagine why Moore or Richardson would want to take over the Mayor’s office after Pat Vaughn’s last eight years of chaos. If either of them is elected they might regret it! I agree with Lee's earlier comment. Lets put abolishing the city charter on the ballot!
Ole Pete October 14, 2011 at 12:32 am
Is this the same RA Barr that served 6 of the 8 years the mayor served? Did anyone hear him complain about transparency while he was on council? Oh let me guess, after he was badly beaten in his election, the Mayor and council are not transparent, can you say sour grapes?
Ole Pete October 14, 2011 at 12:35 am
I guess everything went out of control when ole RA got booted off. If you would like more information on anything why don" you come out from behind the copmputer ands ask for it.
Worked with the guy Too long October 14, 2011 at 01:02 am
Man, you and your wife need a life. We all read in the Messenger where your wife hired an attorney to question the council about open meetings. I read where the City Attorney responded to her lawyers letter in an open meeting. Did her attorney find anything wrong ~ Bet not. Sounds like you are a part of the revenge campaign committee for Ye Ole Chief.
James October 14, 2011 at 01:15 am
Worked with the guy Too long, whose committee are you on? You seem to really love the Mayor, or hate Rick, or both. If you worked with Rick "Too long", you must not have worked for Mayor Vaughn long enough.
Kathy October 14, 2011 at 03:48 am
I'm sorry, but this letter just doesn't make much sense. I've been to one or two of these meetings, and all they do is sit around in a conference room at city hall and talk about things that are going to come up at some future meeting. There's nothing secret about it as far as I can tell, just very boring.
I don't know what the big deal is. If somebody wants to find out what they're talking about, all they have to do is get off their rear end and go to the meeting. If it's that important, they should be there anyway.
Tea Man October 18, 2011 at 01:57 am
Kathy, you are naieve, things aren't as they appear, decisions that they don't want revealed publically are made thru numbered resolutions and voted on with no subject identified and no discussion, things like personnel matters, pay and benefit increases, fee increases, etc. You really need to dig to discover what is really going on and what questions to ask. If an issue comes up during a council meeting, you can't ask a question and you can only make comments if you signed up to ahead of the meeting and only during the designated time.
Kathy October 18, 2011 at 04:59 am
Huh? The agendas I saw had numbers on them for each item, and these items showed up with the same numbers on them for the meeting later on. Then at the meeting in the big assembly room the guy that sits next to the mayor read the numbers and the title of the items, so everybody would know what each one was. At least that's the way it was for the meetings I've been to.
I don't see how they could pass anything that hadn't already been numbered, titled, and discussed before at the first meeting. See what I mean? Besides, don't they have copies of all this stuff you can get through the freedom of information act ? At the meetings I went to, I saw people ask questions about all kinds of things, and nobody ever cut them off or told them they couldn't ask questions. Are you sure you're talking about Powder Springs, and not some other place?
I Get It. October 19, 2011 at 01:35 pm
It's refreshing that someone recognizes that Mr. Barr got "booted off". Because this is exactly what happened.
The Barr's have worked tirelessly over the last few years trying to tighten up the transparency issue. Mr. and Mrs. Barr began questioning the cities open meetings procedures and fought for more transparency during Mr. Barr's tenure. It's in several of the Council Minutes from 2008. Check it out. Once they began bringing attention to this matter, it was the end of Mr. Barr's service on Council. Mayor Vaughn made sure of that. During that time, the Mayor began working behind the scenes to stack the bench with her supporters from the Ford Center. She succeeded. She is doing so again this election with the running of Mr. Bevirt's opponent. Posters such as Ole Pete and Kathy would not know this because they choose not to be informed. In addition, it's worth noting the Mr. Barr was recently nominated and elected by City employee's (non-elected officials) to serve on the cities Personnel Review Board. I'm glad my fellow employees with the city know a good thing when they see it.

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